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Post by OziDug on Jun 18, 2010 17:00:30 GMT
A month or two ago, my 1st gen iPhone died. It was a graceful death, since it still tries to connect to home base and get me to re-register. But I never registered: I bought it in the US long before they were out in the UK, so I had to unlock it and jailbreak it. A couple of years later, the unlock didn't work any more, so I was content to use it just as a Touch.
Nw, with iPhone 4 I was all set to upgrade, but then I had a look at some of the buzz surrounding the iPhone. It seems that the team who did the telephony software for the iPhone had never done it before, and there's an undercurrent of opinion out in Blogland that the problems aren't all with AT&T/Orange/whoever; the fact is that it's not a winning telephone.
But it is a winner in almost every other aspect. Now Nokia have announced the C3, which has full alphanumeric keyboard and is oriented toward messaging. It's WiFi only, but I've never found 3G to be particularly appealing. And I've got another phone to take with me if I should ever need 3G.
So I'm getting an iPod Touch - six months old off eBay, for £170. The Nokia C3 is £109, so I'm quids in. And I have a decent keyboard for messaging.
But maybe...Nokia do have a USB 3G plug-in. I wonder if that'll work?
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Post by Forum Cat on Jun 18, 2010 19:53:59 GMT
So I'm getting an iPod Touch - six months old off eBay, for £170. The Nokia C3 is £109, so I'm quids in. And I have a decent keyboard for messaging. It makes a lot of sense to do it this way. The iPhone 4 is a dam sexy bit of kit though…
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Post by tumnurkoz on Jun 18, 2010 20:13:10 GMT
I won't be getting an iphone (despite them being nice) everyone seems to have one, i can't help thinking that everyone is now 'thinking different', so that leads to them thinking 'just the same as everyone else'! so, i'll continue to think different with my E71 nokia! (wifi, skype,3g tethering etc, etc)
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Post by Forum Cat on Jun 18, 2010 23:06:56 GMT
so, i'll continue to think different with my E71 nokia! How nicely does it play with the Mac? Does it sync your address book, iTunes music and video, PODCASTS, Safari bookmarks, Mail, iPhoto etc etc? Genuine question, I have never had a Nokia that could even sync telephone numbers with my Mac. iPhone on the other hand syncs it all in one click.
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Post by wierdostomps on Jun 19, 2010 7:27:11 GMT
I'm with Monsieur le Chat. I've had loads of smartphones - mainly because I've never found one that syncs cleanly & easily with my Mac. I've never had a Nokia, but Sony Ericsson, Palm & worst of all Orange SPV (running Windows Mobile) all gave me syncing grief. Since switching to iPhone, life is just so much easier, despite having a stupidly complex system so that different calendars can be shared with different people & give different people, different levels of access to my diary. It just works. Otoh, I don't think I can justify an iPhone 4, however beautiful it is until my 3G dies. At the moment, the 3G does enough to keep the "shiny, shiny lust" at bay.
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Post by tumnurkoz on Jun 19, 2010 10:27:31 GMT
E71 works seamlessly with isync, updating all ical and address book items easily. Nokias 'multimedia transfer' app deals with all er, multimedia...and it does it well, just required more imagination on the naming front!i have just added the latest British Mac to podcasts! Nokia Maps works well with Mac too.
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Post by Forum Cat on Jun 19, 2010 11:07:43 GMT
E71 works seamlessly with isync, updating all ical and address book items easily. Nokias 'multimedia transfer' app deals with all er, multimedia...and it does it well, just required more imagination on the naming front!i have just added the latest British Mac to podcasts! Nokia Maps works well with Mac too. Sounds like a quantum leap since I last checked out Nokia. My wife's Nokia was not even recognised by iSync as Nokia could not be arsed to write the Mac plugin for it. These days I can't be arsed to do the research to find out if Nokia have put some effort into phone X to make it work. For example the Nokia 6600 did sync but the Nokia 6600 slide version (which I bought) would not. Paws burnt, I now won't touch Nokia till I have a guarantee that every phone in their range is 100% Mac friendly. If I buy iPhone I know that will always be the case. edit I have looked at the demos of the transfer software and it doesn't look too bad. ClickyIt will just take me a while before I trust Nokia again. Also my iPhone has been such a great produce it will take quite a lot to move me off the platform.
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Post by tumnurkoz on Jun 19, 2010 13:07:47 GMT
To be brutally honest, i was really sweating it regarding compatibility as i had my phone before the MBP! I was pleasantly surprised at how they worked together. The new x6 is quite nice to use too, a capacitive touchscreen that works as well as the IPhone. The IPhone 4 looks lovely and the interface is unparallelled, it is painful to keep trying to think differently!
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Post by HeatherKay on Jun 19, 2010 15:27:34 GMT
it is painful to keep trying to think differently! The secret is not to think too hard. Apple do the hard work for you.
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Post by OziDug on Jun 20, 2010 14:34:13 GMT
Nokia have two different platforms - the S40 and the S60. The S40 range is lower-end while the S60 is the original Smartphone (Nokia invented the term - or maybe Symbian did when they produced the OS).
The E71 is probably the best phone Nokia ever produced. When Nokia finally purchased Symbian they went through a three-year hiatus and quality in all their products suffered, but they're now starting to come out with fresh new products. My E72 is OK but not as good as the E71 (which I notice they're still selling). The C3 is (I hope) a low-cost S40 variant of the S60 E71, so it won't do everything the E71 does (3G for example).
So Mr Cat, I'm afraid Nokia will probably never produce compatibility across the whole range of 70-odd products (I'm told that number is finally dropping to more realistic levels). But the result ought to be phones that Just Work, like they used to.
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Post by OziDug on Jun 20, 2010 15:11:07 GMT
[Later]
Well that was exciting!
Having clicked on Mr. Cat's link, followed through to download Nokia Media Transfer and found that the download button didn't work, so I "Inspected" the element and extracted the file name. It was an upgrade to what I already had, so I clicked to upgrade. Which might have been a mistake, because it complained that it wasn't compatible with my phone - an E72-1. But it worked fine. Up until now, I'd used Halling Media to sync with the iMac, but I'm happier using Nokia software (even though it's Beta).
On the E72, I use Kinoma to play the podcasts - which is how I got the Nokia software. But I'll have another go at the built-in readers. Kioma doesn't seem to add much.
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Post by Forum Cat on Jun 21, 2010 23:08:29 GMT
So Mr Cat, I'm afraid Nokia will probably never produce compatibility across the whole range of 70-odd products I just want Nokia to make their products work seamlessly with the Mac. I can stand some kind of "handshake" program but really they should "just work" with iSync as a minimum. For this not to happen to my mind is just shoddy.
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